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Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:52 pm
by mattrix10
Here is another find from LIFE magazine cache - an elegant Swallow coupe floatplane. You can find it by browsing the LIFE resource under "Tommy Hitchcock" entry.

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6ac3b681423afa5e_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/3484602fabf1f4c0_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/321e248a21d2465b_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8f76c7a4b01c8f97_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/510cd2f5b9d3723d_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/a3c83fabc35c3b9d_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/153da6da65696a57_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8c4132cadcd3617a_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/dcdfb5be8c49f461_large
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/43dfcc9230181777_large

I cannot however pinpoint the correct model designation (could anyone help please). The Civil Aircraft Register is rather laconic in this matter - she is listed as just "Swallow" for both cases, i.e. NC1688 or NC1689 as the last number is partially obscured (could be either "3", "8" or "9").
Apparently in 1939 she was operated by, than famous polo-player, Mr. Tommy Hitchcock.
To me the aircraft looks very much like Fairchild 24W-9.

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:09 pm
by TASSE
If it had two wings it would look like a Waco.

This is a new one to me.

TASSE.

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:28 pm
by solidmodeler
Fairchild 24 with a radial engine and floats. Here is a similar example with a Menasco(?).
Image
http://acepilots.com/pioneer/airscan0010.jpg
http://acepilots.com/airplanes/country/american/fairchild-models-24-c8-c-and-c8-d/

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:41 am
by TASSE
Thank you, that puts my mind at rest.

TASSE.

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:12 am
by solidmodeler
Most of the aircraft with registration numbers between NC16800 and NC16909 were different variants (A,C,G & H) of the Fairchild 24.

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:22 am
by mattrix10
Thnak you very much gentlemen. Should we rename the topic?

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:13 pm
by MrWidgeon
solidmodeler wrote:Fairchild 24 with a radial engine and floats. Here is a similar example with a Menasco(?).
Image
http://acepilots.com/pioneer/airscan0010.jpg
http://acepilots.com/airplanes/country/american/fairchild-models-24-c8-c-and-c8-d/


Not a Menasco, but an inverted 6 cylinder Ranger engine, most likely 145 hp.
They also used 150 hp and 165 hp Rangers, but since I can't make out the registration I'm not sure.
The Model 24 C8DS was the first of the series put on floats and it used the 145 hp engine.
The Ranger engines were made by a division of Fairchild Aircraft, so it would stand to reason ........
(Although the second version of the Model 24 - the Model 24 C8B used a 125 hp Menasco engine)

Re: Unidentified Swallow (?) floatplane

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:54 pm
by barnstormer
In the first set of plane photos, the engine is obviously a Warner Radial, probably a 145 hp. The floats appear to be EDO 1320s, with the ball and socket strut to deck fittings.