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SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:29 pm
by waterwings5
Would some kind soul agree with my (lengthy) research that the final (5) Short flying boats to operate in Argentina with the Cooperativa Argentina de Aeronavegantes were

LV-AAO Argentina
LV-AAQ Inglaterra (renamed Provincia de Formoza)
LV-ACT Paraguay
LV-AHM Almirante Zar and
LV-AHH Rio de la Plata .

While I am still trying to find out the LV- re-registrations for former CAUSA
CX-AKR Capitan Boiso Lanza and
CX-ANI Saint David when inherited by Aerolineas Argentinas
And what happened to them- they dont appear to have been bought by the Cooperativa Argentinas.

I have almost given up trying to source any real info about the 'COOPS' activities.

WATERWINGS

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:15 pm
by Pondskater
Hi, and welcome.

I haven't got much either on the fates of the South American Sandringham/Sunderlands so I can't add a lot as yet.

However, DP195 CX-AKR “Capitan Bosio Lanza” was originally part of CAUSA's fleet and I have a note that she was involved in a non-fatal accident at Montevideo 26-1-56 and scrapped afterwards.

My list of aircraft used in Argentina/Uruguay isn't complete. Do you know the original (or at least earlier) identities of LV-AHM and CX-ANI?

The list I have is:
DV964 G-AGPZ LV-AAO “Argentina”
Dodero 17-11-45

DD834 G-AGPT LV-AAP “Uruguay”
Dodero 24-11-45

DD841 G-AGPY LV-AAR “Brazil”
Dodero 24-11-45

EJ170 G-AGTZ LV-AAQ “Inglaterra”
Dodero 24-11-45

EJ156 G-AGWW CX-AFA
To CAUSA 26-2-46

ML876 G-AGWX CX-AKF LV-AAS
To CAUSA 26-2-46

ML843 G-AHRE LV-ACT “Paraguay”
Originally for Dodero but passed to ALFA 21-5-46

DP195 CX-AKR “Capitan Bosio Lanza”
Sold to CAUSA. Accident Montevideo 26-1-56

EK579 LV-AHG

EJ171 LV-AHH

Regards

AllanK

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:42 pm
by sunderlandnut
Sorry, I can't help much either.

Have you seen the magazine Propliner 94 Spring 2003 article ‘Ladies of the River Plate’ by Michael Magnusson?
The article includes this list.

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I can email you a scanned copy of the full article (4 pages) if you PM me your email address.

Also try Googling CX-AKR Capitan Boiso Lanza - the Wikipedia entry is interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compa%C3%B ... a_Uruguaya

Cheers
Richard

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:35 pm
by Pondskater
Thanks Richard,

Interesting that the article only confirms four as operational with CAA - LV-AHH being laid up damaged?

On the broader list:
SH.58C was EJ172 G-AKCP " St David" CX-ANI
SH.59C was ML840 G-AKCR "St Andrew" CX-ANA
(edited to correct the finger trouble spotted by Richard - ta!)

Both were ex-BOAC Bermuda class. Still don't yet have the fate of CX-ANI or the LV registration. I'll keep digging

And I did have the link to the Norwegian Sandringham afterall: SH-71C JM714 LN-LMK LV-PAE LV-AHM.

AllanK

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:28 pm
by sunderlandnut
Allan

I think SH.58C EJ172 G-AKCP “St David” was CX-ANI

and

SH.59C ML840 G-AKCR “St Andrew” was CX-ANA

I don’t know the fate of either of them.

Cheers
Richard

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:46 pm
by sunderlandnut
The only photo I have of G-AKCP is this one, which is tiny and not very clear but think the name looks more like St David than St Andrew.

Image

Cheers
Richard

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:04 am
by waterwings5
Thanks everyone-fantastic response- Pondskater has answered the Capt Boiso query- just leaves what happened to Saint David while with CAUSA.

Waterwings

Re: SHORT SANDRINGHAMS IN ARGENTINA

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 am
by Aotearoa
Just in case you haven't got this information:

I have a copy of John Hamlin's wonderful book "Ocean Sentinel"published in 2012 which shows the following:

G-AKCP which became CX-ANI. Stuck an object and damaged beyond repair on takeoff from Montevideo 25 Jan 1956. Beached and the wreck still extant in Montevideo Harbour early 1964 but later scrapped.

C-AKCR which became CX-ANA. Damaged beyond repair when it struck a dredge while taxying for takeoff on Montevideo Harbour 22 Oct 1955. Presumed scrapped

2 aircraft lost in a 3 month period!!

Cheers
Paul Sheehan
Melbourne, Australia