Short Solent III

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Short Solent III

Postby seawings » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:23 pm

Hello Everyone,

I'm looking for any and all information I can find on the Short Solent III.

Specifically, I'm interested in constructing a 1/72 scale accurate model of NJ201 'City of Funchal' but I cannot find any accurate scale plans whatsoever.

Apart from the plans in the old Aircraft of the Fighting Powers volume which dates from around , I have never seen another set.

Secondly, can anyone point me to an informative description and list of Shorts 'boats showing the relationship and development between the Sunderland, the Hythe, the Solent and the Seaford? Be intersted to read all about it.

That's all for now,
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Re: Short Solent III

Postby davidpepperswash » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:03 pm

I am currently writing a history of the Short Seaford (most of which were converted to Solent IIIs) but have not found a specific drawing for the Solent. Website http://www.the-blueprint.com has a drawing of a Solent fuselage and drawings for a Seaford. The Flight international archive for 3 Jan 1946 has a small three-view drawing. Basically a Solent III was a Seaford I with a pointy nose and tail.
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Re: Short Solent III

Postby sunderlandnut » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:33 pm

Hello Bryan

Do you have Barnes ‘Shorts Aircraft since 1900’?
If not phone me.
Cheers
Richard

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Re: Short Solent III

Postby dogsbody » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:00 pm

You are quite the trusting soul, Richard, posting your phone number on a forum. How do you know I'm not some weirdo who's going to call you at odd hours of the day and night?


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Re: Short Solent III

Postby davidpepperswash » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:20 pm

I have just seen that http://www.samsmodels.com has a 1/48 drawing of a Solent for sale for £9.95. It is a John Sizer drawing, no. K1876.
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Re: Short Solent III

Postby sunderlandnut » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:27 pm

Chris

Jeez - I hope not! Thanks for pointing that out. Silly me.

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Re: Short Solent III

Postby Pondskater » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:57 pm

Bryan - City of Funchal is a good choice, probably a unique Solent. See our earlier discussion here (viewtopic.php?f=67&t=521&start=10) and you see that the Aquila conversion left a few unique features.

The nearest I've got to a proper drawing so far is this photo of one from Short Bros of the Seaford:
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The objects inside are ballast tanks used during weight testing.

And as for an explanation of the different types:
Sunderlands (S25) were converted to create the Hythes (simple conversion) and Sandringhams (streamlined nose and tail and twin deck interior). Some are better referred to as Civil Sunderlands (e.g. the BOAC wartime conversions with austerity seating and the CAUSA aircraft) The Hythe name was created by BOAC for the post war refurbishment of their fleet.

The Sunderland IV was considered different enough to be renamed Short Seaford (S45). When they were converted they became the Solent with the new nose, tail and twin deck interior. Some were also new build.

David - welcome, it will be interesting to see the results of your Seaford work.
HTH

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Re: Short Solent III

Postby strangeclouds » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:48 pm

I was recently at OAK visiting the museum there...
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Re: Short Solent III

Postby Rajay » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:58 pm

Very cool pics! Thanks for sharing.
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