From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby mdwflyer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:13 am

That was definitely up there for "cryptic" discussions...

How far along are the duck projects?

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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby Rajay » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:17 pm

ForsbergAviation wrote:Sorry, got called away to unload a 40 ft sea container. More airplane parts.

I spoke at length with the owner of the SCAN 30, Sn30. He has been watching the activity on this site. He would rather remain in the background at this time. (Only because I cant spell"Annomious").

First of all, "anonymous" is spelled a-n-o-n-y-m-o-u-s. Most computers have spell-check or help and that makes it easy to figure out.

Secondly, why are you being so coy? And why even bother to join this forum in the first place if you really don't want to participate or share what you know and instead would prefer to "remain in the background"?

From the much discussed recently, Fred J. Knight "The Grumman Amphibians" book, page 405:

"30 Built as SCAN-30. BoS Centravia SA, Paris, France to McKinnon-Hickman Co., Portland, OR 28Sep55. Cvtd to Super Widgeon and regd N2814D. To Louisiana Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries, New Orleans, LA in 1956. To Theodore G. Vorhees, Delray Beach, FL Jan77. To Seair Airways Ltd. Kissimmee, FL, Dec83. Rergd N151SA, Mar84 to Seair Airways Ltd. Nashua, WA. Cancelled from USCAR Nov86. To Aircraft Innsbruck Luftfahrt Gmbh, Innsbruck, Austria as OE-FWS, Jan87. Overhauled by Dornier 1988 and flying as “308” at Innsbruck Oct90. Operated by Red Bull Enterprises, Salzburg, Austria from 1998 and on static display at ILA, Berlin (Germany) May02. Accident 29Mar05: crashed and sank north of Sirmione on Lake Garda, north Italy after flight from Salzburg, Austria, with 2 crew on board. No fatalities and aircraft salvaged and sold to Timothy R. Martin, Anchorage, AK. Parts used in rebuild of c/n 1346. Remains to Edwin R. Forsberg, Salem, OR 2008. Aircraft trucked from Alaska to California circa 01Jun12 for rebuild."

But maybe that was some other Ed Forsberg....
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby ForsbergAviation » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:56 am

I lived in Salem, OR from 1991 to 2001. While there I had my hanger broken into twice. They stole widgeon parts and T-6 parts. If you think I am going to tell the whole world where my aircraft and spares are located, you are mistaken. I will be happy to show my aircraft to anyone that has a genuine interest. I now have security in place at my compound such that I can see who is comming and going 24 hrs a day. I don't have to prove to you or anyone else what projects I have. I have the Bills for that. As for my spelling, I don't care what you think. If I had wanted to win a spelling bee, I would have done so.. I fly Boeing 777's. And rebuild warbirds. In addition I maintain an HU-16 Albatross for a friend in Richmond, CA. I am very busy at all times. Tomorrow I am filling in at the Drop Zone, due to sick pilots. Not because I have to, because I want too. If I do or don't do something that you like or agree with, That's just TOO BAD! I have too many airframes to store indoors. I own N58837, SN1337, and Scan 30 SN 30. Have no intention of getting rid of them. When I die, the wife will sell them to the highest bidder. Right now I am looking at a G-21A to buy. Everything is there, it just needs assembly and a pair of engines. I gotta go now, I have to hem my daughters cloak for Scottish Faire.
Scan 30, sn30. And still I can't post photos to this page. So check Facebook. On the Seaplanes and Flying boats page
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby seawings » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:25 am

Morning All,

Yo' know Guys, everybody is welcome here; it's a nice place to be and when everyone plays nicely it's even better. It takes all sorts, but let's just keep it that way, please.

Incidentally, if there are any 'intense' conversations to be had, why not swop email or phone numbers and continue at your leisure.....?

I think we have done this one sub-topic to death now; at least we know there are many flying boats out there being looked after by individuals that care about them; that's all we can ask for and I thank you all for so doing, as I bet it isn't cheap!

Me? I would just like the opportunity to go see them all.....! :)
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby bertsboat » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:26 pm

N37DF nose was radar and the fillets were to increase air speed. Also had Mansdorph door STC three axis autopilot and control surface fillets.
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby Rajay » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:42 pm

bertsboat wrote:N37DF nose was radar and the fillets were to increase air speed. Also had Mansdorf door STC three axis autopilot and control surface fillets.

Do you have any first-hand knowledge of N37DF? Are you possibly the current owner? Just curious because apparently its registration expired last November 26th (2014) and it was not renewed, so of course I'm curious about its actual current status. Thanks.
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby MrWidgeon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:52 pm

Okay, to clear up old business, bertsboat was a previous owner.
He PM'd me with the back story.

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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby MrWidgeon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:39 pm

Next up: NEW PHOTOS !
Yeah, after 19 months I've finally gotten off me rump and uploaded a bunch of new stuff to Photobucket and there's a lot more to come.
Here's 10 to get you started.

1215 N144SL Franklin conversion about 2000, new image

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1228 N1340V Ranger engines, an action shot taken by Don Dawson in S.E. Alaska back in the early 90s new image

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1291 NC69058 Ranger engines leaving the dock at Sausalito, CA in 1949 Wm. T. Larkins photo new image

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1311 N744MC Lockheed conversion, Feb. 2013 new image

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1312 N13122 McKinnon conversion Fairbanks, Alaska 1971 new image

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1319 N1595V Ranger engines & 1387 N63350 McKinnon conversion Spencer Lake, WA Dec. 1992 on that $100 hamburger trip new scan

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1327 N79906 (#2) McKinnon conversion 1968 new image

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1338 N69067 Rangers engines Alaska, 1950s new image from Steve Harvey

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1386 N101PE Lockheed conversion Oshkosh July 2013 new image

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1387 N63350 McKinnon conversion & 1221 N45S McDermott conversion Alaska 1968 new image

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More later.
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby Rajay » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:08 pm

Wow, Bill! 60,000+ views! That's gotta be a record on this forum, don't you think? This topic must be especially dear if not necessarily "near" enough to everyone's heart as they say....

Just looking around at the other dedicated 'boat forums, the only ones that I found that were even worth mentioning but still not in any way "competition" were as follows:

Trans Africa Cat (PBY) trip - 21,000+

Chalk's 3 Turbines (Mallards) - almost 13,000

The Mallard..by the numbers (another one of yours I believe) - almost 11,000

My "From the Beginning, McKinnon Style" (G-21 series) - 10,000+ (but of course I have to give you credit for inspiring me to do it....)
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Re: From the beginning, starting with C/N 1201,

Postby MrWidgeon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:43 pm

It's astounded me too.
I can't believe there's that much enthusiasm for the airplane.
(Yeah, the Mallard page here is mine too, more to come on that one too)

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