Supermarine Seagull ASR

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Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby oceanskimmer » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:10 pm

Hi

Another type I have not seen much info on, any photos / drawings would be appreciated.

Thank you and regards
Jason
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby TASSE » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:59 pm

Hi Jason sorry i have no drawing.

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With no central fin.

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With small central fin.

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With large central fin.

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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby MrWidgeon » Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:46 am

A 3 view ?
Gottcha covered.

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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby TASSE » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:37 pm

Thanks Mr W.

Cheers Roy.
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby geoffreybe » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:26 pm

TASSE wrote:
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With large central fin.

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Hello !
Quite an interesting photo !
It shows PA147 with large central fin and small external fins but with a short pylon fairing.
Is this the latest configuration ?
PA147 at Sherburn-in-Elmet in July 1950 had the same empennage but the extended pylon fairing.
And PA147 previously had the short central rudder and the extended wing pylon fairing.
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby schneiderman » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:00 am

The tailplane is the final configuration, as in the 3-view in the post above. I don't think that is a shortened pylon, it looks to me as it the rear fairing part has been removed to allow that external pipework to be fitted; some sort of spray system to assess icing/de-icing on the tailplane perhaps?
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby geoffreybe » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:31 am

Thanks for replying.
What you described is the winch.
But the wing pylon is of the "short" type.
Here is a photo of the Seagul with the small centre fin & with the long wing pylon.
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So, I Wonder if Supermarine went back to the shorter wing pylon.
Or the photo from Tasse was taken earlier than this one ???
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby geoffreybe » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:36 am

... I really think that the photo from Tasse shows the last configuration because the Seagull has the larger sea rudder.
If anyone could provide me with a high resolution scan of the photo from Tasse (or any other picture of the Seagull in the same configuration), I would be an happy man.
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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby MrWidgeon » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:49 pm

I think that's as good as you're going to get.
Roy Tassell passed on a few years ago.

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Re: Supermarine Seagull ASR

Postby schneiderman » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:46 pm

I have to say that I am more familiar with the early design concepts for this aircraft than I am with the final build but it still looks to me that is the long pylon with the tail part removed. The top profile of the engine nacelle terminates with a cut-off at the trailing edge suggesting that it would continue backwards. Also the base of the pylon below the window shows rearwards slope, as it does for the long pylon. The final thing is the triangular object at the rear of the pylon. I see that as the rear part of the pylon hinged forward, presumably a pair of doors, one on each side.
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